Wednesday, March 05, 2008

Superdelegates: Popular vote or delegate count?

Heard something interesting this morning on the MSNBC post-mortem:

Exit polling in Ohio and Texas indicated that a majority of Democratic voters there believe that superdelegates should support the candidate who wins the popular vote. Hillary Clinton has a shot at pulling that off, so presumably her camp likes that idea. By contrast, according to one of Obama's superdelegates this morning, Obama's camp wants superdelegates voting in accord with the delegate count, not the popular vote.

It may be moot if Obama goes into the convention with both the popular vote and the delegate count. Otherwise--wow, this could get messy.

10 comments:

Misty Fowler said...

Wow, I'm not sure what to think about that. I've repeatedly said I think that the superdelegates should not override the voters. But, I hadn't thought before about how that could mean two different things. Hopefully, it won't come down to that, though.

lucidity said...

Obama WILL have both the popular vote and the lead in pledged delegates. According to the AP, Hillary would have to win 62% of the remaining pledged delegates in order to overtake Obama. She had a net gain of 12 or so on Tuesday. And Obama's leading the popular vote by about 600,000.

Voice of Utah said...

So, Lucidity, you don't want to count the popular vote in Florida, either? Those guys can't get a break.

lucidity said...

No, because many Dems didn't vote in those states knowing that it would be a pointless exercise (no delegates awarded). However, I totally support Florida and Michigan's efforts to schedule new primaries that follow the DNC's rules.

Voice of Utah said...

The million+ people in Florida who voted -- many believing that their delegates would end up being seated -- might not feel so casual about being disenfranchised. But I'm all in favor of rules. For example, the rules say that superdelegates can vote for whomever they want...

lucidity said...

If FL and MI voters feel they were "disenfranchised," they can take that up with their state parties. I still don't understand why the FL and MI state parties thought they could break the rules and get away with it.

Voice of Utah said...

I agree that it was moronic (although it's not clear to me whether theh GOP legislature and/or Democratic party were to blame in Florida). I hope they've learned their lesson, and that the rest of us don't pay the price in November.

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